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Post by barrys on Jan 18, 2020 13:01:10 GMT
Hi, I played another game of Grimdark Future last night and once again found myself doubting/questioning the rules around morale. I hope that someone can clear this up for me.
Let's start with a model which has 12 wounds.
It loses 6 wounds.
It takes a morale test and passes. It remains on the battlefield with 6 wounds left.
- What happens if it loses more wounds? Does it have to take more morale tests?
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Post by onepagerules on Jan 18, 2020 14:00:13 GMT
Yes, it keeps taking morale tests.
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Post by barrys on Jan 18, 2020 16:08:18 GMT
Ok, thanks, but when does it take extra morale tests? Is it when the 6 remaining wounds become 3?
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Post by onepagerules on Jan 18, 2020 20:28:58 GMT
It takes a new test whenever it takes additional wounds.
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Post by Wyloch on Jan 18, 2020 21:12:34 GMT
It takes a new test whenever it takes additional wounds. What about when a psychic does some psychic damage and then also shoots at the same enemy. Are there two morale tests or just one test at the end of the activation? |
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Post by barrys on Jan 18, 2020 21:33:58 GMT
It takes a new test whenever it takes additional wounds. Ouch, I've never played it that way. That would be pretty devastating. We house ruled that a morale test was required when a model lost half of the wounds it started the round with. Wyloch's question is interesting. That situation arose for us last night too. |
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Post by onepagerules on Jan 18, 2020 21:52:00 GMT
Two separate attacks = two separate morale tests.
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Post by andyskinner on Jan 18, 2020 22:40:10 GMT
But different weapons from the same unit are all one attack?
Just checking...
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Post by barrys on Jan 18, 2020 23:58:12 GMT
But different weapons from the same unit are all one attack? Just checking... andy That's what I thought, too. If that hypothetical psychic can cause 2 morale checks then so could a unit with 2 weapon types. That doesn't seem right. None of this subtlety or these clauses about morale are in the rules. I think this is why I'm struggling to understand and implement them. B |
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Post by onepagerules on Jan 19, 2020 2:41:13 GMT
No, different weapons are all part of the same attack. Imagine it like an attack "type", so you have spell attacks, shooting attacks, melee attacks, special rule attacks...
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Post by egge on Jan 19, 2020 14:58:57 GMT
Should perhaps be a bit logical to roll the morale after all shooting attacks has been made and you roll morale only once then.
It is a bit counter intuitive that a unit can cause two morale tests on a single squad.
*opinion mode off* 😀
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Post by vijudiju on Jan 19, 2020 16:41:43 GMT
imo it is very intuitive:
every wound or casualties suffered does test your will to fight. to make a unit run for the hills you just need to focus it down. i personaly don't want to keep on fighting if i am beaten up like crazy ^^
so if an unit sufferes enough beating it could rout just from failing a dangerous terrain test and losing a model. because it is written that every wound below 50% model/tough value causes a moral test (after the shooting or meele or effect of a spell ends). there is so much tatic behind using moral against your enemy.
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Post by egge on Jan 20, 2020 16:40:30 GMT
I think I worded my post wrong; I mean a morale test after each time a enemy squad has activated and caused a wound on a unit at half/under half. But I think a squad should only be able to cause a single morale check on a squad.
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Post by Wyloch on Jan 24, 2020 14:25:58 GMT
I think I worded my post wrong; I mean a morale test after each time a enemy squad has activated and caused a wound on a unit at half/under half. But I think a squad should only be able to cause a single morale check on a squad. This is the case. After all shooting or melee wounds have been resolved, the victim unit takes either 0 or 1 morale test. If they took 5 wounds, they don't take 5 morale tests. |
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Post by andyskinner on Jan 24, 2020 14:47:36 GMT
But a squad with a psyker could cause a wound with a spell and then with shooting or melee.
I'd also lean towards one check per activation.
I know OPA has heard all kinds of feedback, but from my experience on the forum, when to take morale tests has been the most frequently questioned area in the games.
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