Make Havoc Brothers of Lust great again (updates for Havocs)
Nov 27, 2020 12:04:54 GMT
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Post by daymkay on Nov 27, 2020 12:04:54 GMT
Hi folks,
first of all I have to apologise. I wrote here a VERY detailed report whats the current problem with the Havoc Brothers of Lust, but with one missclick everything was deleted. This is why I am now just going to write everything in a short way ...
The current problem:
The solution:
New weapon options for Endless Brothers:
“Replace any Assault Carbines:
New weapon options for Agony Brothers:
“Replace all 2x CCW:
Replace any CCW:
This way everyone who likes the current options still is able to play there units as ever, but this also open new opportunities. Endless Brothers are now finally what they should be: Support Noise Brothers, and Agony Brothers can finally compete with Havoc Destroyers (do you want ambush and tough? -> Go for Destroyers. You dont need this? -> Fine! Go for Agony Brothers, they are way cheaper.)
The point costs are currently based on the existing units (Noise Marines -> Endless Brothers; Havoc Destroyers -> Agony Brothers), but might be changed with more playtesting.
Currently I am playtesting those new options. To make this a project for everyone and not only for me, I am documenting my results like this:
POINTS VS enemy faction (victory / defeat)
The plan is to get as much results with as many different point sizes and enemy factions as possible, to make this data-set meaningfull.
This is the point where, I invite you, to support this project: build lists with this changes, playtest it and post your results into this thread!
Together we can make Havoc Brothers of Lust great again!
Greets
Day
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Total Results: (going to be updated regulary)
first of all I have to apologise. I wrote here a VERY detailed report whats the current problem with the Havoc Brothers of Lust, but with one missclick everything was deleted. This is why I am now just going to write everything in a short way ...

The current problem:
- our "gods blessing" (fast for everyone) is great.
- our "special units" (Agony Brothers & Endless Brothers) arent filling any open place for the Havoc Brothers armylist
The solution:
- Those two units (Agony Brother & Endless Brothers) need more weapon options, to compete with the other Havoc Brother units.
New weapon options for Endless Brothers:
“Replace any Assault Carbines:
- Noise Rifle (24”, A3) +10pts
- Noise Amplifier (12”, A6, AP[1]) +15pts
- Noise Autocannon (36”, A2, AP[1]) +15pts”
New weapon options for Agony Brothers:
“Replace all 2x CCW:
- 2x Energy Claw (A2, AP[1], Rending) +20pts
Replace any CCW:
- Lust Whip (A3, AP[1], Rending) +5pts
- Energy Sword (A2, AP[1], Rending) +5pts
- Energy Fist (A2, AP[3]) +5pts
- Energy Hammer (A2, AP[1], Deadly [3]) +5pts”
This way everyone who likes the current options still is able to play there units as ever, but this also open new opportunities. Endless Brothers are now finally what they should be: Support Noise Brothers, and Agony Brothers can finally compete with Havoc Destroyers (do you want ambush and tough? -> Go for Destroyers. You dont need this? -> Fine! Go for Agony Brothers, they are way cheaper.)
The point costs are currently based on the existing units (Noise Marines -> Endless Brothers; Havoc Destroyers -> Agony Brothers), but might be changed with more playtesting.
Currently I am playtesting those new options. To make this a project for everyone and not only for me, I am documenting my results like this:
POINTS VS enemy faction (victory / defeat)
date / version | **.**.**** (HB v**, HB Disciples v**) |
own list | *** *** *** |
enemy list | *** *** *** |
terrain | 2x covering, 2x LoS-blocker, 2x dangerous terrain |
result | Victory with X - Y (total of Z objective markers) |
conclusion | ************** |
The plan is to get as much results with as many different point sizes and enemy factions as possible, to make this data-set meaningfull.
This is the point where, I invite you, to support this project: build lists with this changes, playtest it and post your results into this thread!

Together we can make Havoc Brothers of Lust great again!

Greets
Day
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Total Results: (going to be updated regulary)
Enemy Faction | Point size | Victory / Defeat |
Human Defence Force | 1000 pts | Victory |